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FFmpeg library : webm (vorbis) audio to aac conversion
3 janvier 2014, par taansariI have written a small program to convert webm (vorbis) audio to aac format, using FFmpeg libraries - C++ (on Windows using 32 bit Zeranoe FFmpeg builds). After writing this program, I find it is sometimes converting files as per expectation, and at other times, results in larger duration files, and audio playback is broken/awkward as well.
This code appears to be working fine for mp3, which also uses FLTP format (same as vorbis), so technically both look similar.
Please see below sample code I am using :
////////////////////////////////////////////////
#include "stdafx.h"
#include <iostream>
#include <fstream>
#include <string>
#include <vector>
#include <map>
#include <deque>
#include <queue>
#include
#include
#include
#include
extern "C"
{
#include "libavcodec/avcodec.h"
#include "libavformat/avformat.h"
#include "libavdevice/avdevice.h"
#include "libswscale/swscale.h"
#include "libavutil/dict.h"
#include "libavutil/error.h"
#include "libavutil/opt.h"
#include <libavutil></libavutil>fifo.h>
#include <libavutil></libavutil>imgutils.h>
#include <libavutil></libavutil>samplefmt.h>
#include <libswresample></libswresample>swresample.h>
}
AVFormatContext* fmt_ctx= NULL;
int audio_stream_index = -1;
AVCodecContext * codec_ctx_audio = NULL;
AVCodec* codec_audio = NULL;
AVFrame* decoded_frame = NULL;
uint8_t** audio_dst_data = NULL;
int got_frame = 0;
int audiobufsize = 0;
AVPacket input_packet;
int audio_dst_linesize = 0;
int audio_dst_bufsize = 0;
SwrContext * swr = NULL;
AVOutputFormat * output_format = NULL ;
AVFormatContext * output_fmt_ctx= NULL;
AVStream * audio_st = NULL;
AVCodec * audio_codec = NULL;
double audio_pts = 0.0;
AVFrame * out_frame = avcodec_alloc_frame();
int audio_input_frame_size = 0;
uint8_t * audio_data_buf = NULL;
uint8_t * audio_out = NULL;
int audio_bit_rate;
int audio_sample_rate;
int audio_channels;
int decode_packet();
int open_audio_input(char* src_filename);
int decode_frame();
int open_encoder(char* output_filename);
AVStream *add_audio_stream(AVFormatContext *oc, AVCodec **codec,
enum AVCodecID codec_id);
int open_audio(AVFormatContext *oc, AVCodec *codec, AVStream *st);
void close_audio(AVFormatContext *oc, AVStream *st);
void write_audio_frame(uint8_t ** audio_src_data, int audio_src_bufsize);
int open_audio_input(char* src_filename)
{
int i =0;
/* open input file, and allocate format context */
if (avformat_open_input(&fmt_ctx, src_filename, NULL, NULL) < 0)
{
fprintf(stderr, "Could not open source file %s\n", src_filename);
exit(1);
}
// Retrieve stream information
if(avformat_find_stream_info(fmt_ctx, NULL)<0)
return -1; // Couldn't find stream information
// Dump information about file onto standard error
av_dump_format(fmt_ctx, 0, src_filename, 0);
// Find the first video stream
for(i=0; inb_streams; i++)
{
if(fmt_ctx->streams[i]->codec->codec_type==AVMEDIA_TYPE_AUDIO)
{
audio_stream_index=i;
break;
}
}
if ( audio_stream_index != -1 )
{
// Get a pointer to the codec context for the audio stream
codec_ctx_audio=fmt_ctx->streams[audio_stream_index]->codec;
// Find the decoder for the video stream
codec_audio=avcodec_find_decoder(codec_ctx_audio->codec_id);
if(codec_audio==NULL) {
fprintf(stderr, "Unsupported audio codec!\n");
return -1; // Codec not found
}
// Open codec
AVDictionary *codecDictOptions = NULL;
if(avcodec_open2(codec_ctx_audio, codec_audio, &codecDictOptions)<0)
return -1; // Could not open codec
// Set up SWR context once you've got codec information
swr = swr_alloc();
av_opt_set_int(swr, "in_channel_layout", codec_ctx_audio->channel_layout, 0);
av_opt_set_int(swr, "out_channel_layout", codec_ctx_audio->channel_layout, 0);
av_opt_set_int(swr, "in_sample_rate", codec_ctx_audio->sample_rate, 0);
av_opt_set_int(swr, "out_sample_rate", codec_ctx_audio->sample_rate, 0);
av_opt_set_sample_fmt(swr, "in_sample_fmt", codec_ctx_audio->sample_fmt, 0);
av_opt_set_sample_fmt(swr, "out_sample_fmt", AV_SAMPLE_FMT_S16, 0);
swr_init(swr);
// Allocate audio frame
if ( decoded_frame == NULL ) decoded_frame = avcodec_alloc_frame();
int nb_planes = 0;
AVStream* audio_stream = fmt_ctx->streams[audio_stream_index];
nb_planes = av_sample_fmt_is_planar(codec_ctx_audio->sample_fmt) ? codec_ctx_audio->channels : 1;
int tempSize = sizeof(uint8_t *) * nb_planes;
audio_dst_data = (uint8_t**)av_mallocz(tempSize);
if (!audio_dst_data)
{
fprintf(stderr, "Could not allocate audio data buffers\n");
}
else
{
for ( int i = 0 ; i < nb_planes ; i ++ )
{
audio_dst_data[i] = NULL;
}
}
}
}
int decode_frame()
{
int rv = 0;
got_frame = 0;
if ( fmt_ctx == NULL )
{
return rv;
}
int ret = 0;
audiobufsize = 0;
rv = av_read_frame(fmt_ctx, &input_packet);
if ( rv < 0 )
{
return rv;
}
rv = decode_packet();
// Free the input_packet that was allocated by av_read_frame
av_free_packet(&input_packet);
return rv;
}
int decode_packet()
{
int rv = 0;
int ret = 0;
//audio stream?
if(input_packet.stream_index == audio_stream_index)
{
/* decode audio frame */
rv = avcodec_decode_audio4(codec_ctx_audio, decoded_frame, &got_frame, &input_packet);
if (rv < 0)
{
fprintf(stderr, "Error decoding audio frame\n");
//return ret;
}
else
{
if (got_frame)
{
if ( audio_dst_data[0] == NULL )
{
ret = av_samples_alloc(audio_dst_data, &audio_dst_linesize, decoded_frame->channels,
decoded_frame->nb_samples, (AVSampleFormat)decoded_frame->format, 1);
if (ret < 0)
{
fprintf(stderr, "Could not allocate audio buffer\n");
return AVERROR(ENOMEM);
}
/* TODO: extend return code of the av_samples_* functions so that this call is not needed */
audio_dst_bufsize = av_samples_get_buffer_size(NULL, audio_st->codec->channels,
decoded_frame->nb_samples, (AVSampleFormat)decoded_frame->format, 1);
//int16_t* outputBuffer = ...;
swr_convert(swr, audio_dst_data, out_frame->nb_samples,
(const uint8_t **)(decoded_frame->data), decoded_frame->nb_samples);
//swr_convert( swr, audio_dst_data, out_frame->nb_samples, (const uint8_t**) decoded_frame->extended_data, decoded_frame->nb_samples );
}
/* copy audio data to destination buffer:
* this is required since rawaudio expects non aligned data */
//av_samples_copy(audio_dst_data, decoded_frame->data, 0, 0,
// decoded_frame->nb_samples, decoded_frame->channels, (AVSampleFormat)decoded_frame->format);
}
}
}
return rv;
}
int open_encoder(char* output_filename )
{
int rv = 0;
/* allocate the output media context */
AVOutputFormat *opfmt = NULL;
avformat_alloc_output_context2(&output_fmt_ctx, opfmt, NULL, output_filename);
if (!output_fmt_ctx) {
printf("Could not deduce output format from file extension: using MPEG.\n");
avformat_alloc_output_context2(&output_fmt_ctx, NULL, "mpeg", output_filename);
}
if (!output_fmt_ctx) {
rv = -1;
}
else
{
output_format = output_fmt_ctx->oformat;
}
/* Add the audio stream using the default format codecs
* and initialize the codecs. */
audio_st = NULL;
if ( output_fmt_ctx )
{
if (output_format->audio_codec != AV_CODEC_ID_NONE)
{
audio_st = add_audio_stream(output_fmt_ctx, &audio_codec, output_format->audio_codec);
}
/* Now that all the parameters are set, we can open the audio and
* video codecs and allocate the necessary encode buffers. */
if (audio_st)
{
rv = open_audio(output_fmt_ctx, audio_codec, audio_st);
if ( rv < 0 ) return rv;
}
av_dump_format(output_fmt_ctx, 0, output_filename, 1);
/* open the output file, if needed */
if (!(output_format->flags & AVFMT_NOFILE))
{
if (avio_open(&output_fmt_ctx->pb, output_filename, AVIO_FLAG_WRITE) < 0) {
fprintf(stderr, "Could not open '%s'\n", output_filename);
rv = -1;
}
else
{
/* Write the stream header, if any. */
if (avformat_write_header(output_fmt_ctx, NULL) < 0)
{
fprintf(stderr, "Error occurred when opening output file\n");
rv = -1;
}
}
}
}
return rv;
}
AVStream *add_audio_stream(AVFormatContext *oc, AVCodec **codec,
enum AVCodecID codec_id)
{
AVCodecContext *c;
AVStream *st;
/* find the audio encoder */
*codec = avcodec_find_encoder(codec_id);
if (!(*codec)) {
fprintf(stderr, "Could not find codec\n");
exit(1);
}
st = avformat_new_stream(oc, *codec);
if (!st) {
fprintf(stderr, "Could not allocate stream\n");
exit(1);
}
st->id = 1;
c = st->codec;
/* put sample parameters */
c->sample_fmt = AV_SAMPLE_FMT_S16;
c->bit_rate = audio_bit_rate;
c->sample_rate = audio_sample_rate;
c->channels = audio_channels;
// some formats want stream headers to be separate
if (oc->oformat->flags & AVFMT_GLOBALHEADER)
c->flags |= CODEC_FLAG_GLOBAL_HEADER;
return st;
}
int open_audio(AVFormatContext *oc, AVCodec *codec, AVStream *st)
{
int ret=0;
AVCodecContext *c;
st->duration = fmt_ctx->duration;
c = st->codec;
/* open it */
ret = avcodec_open2(c, codec, NULL) ;
if ( ret < 0)
{
fprintf(stderr, "could not open codec\n");
return -1;
//exit(1);
}
if (c->codec->capabilities & CODEC_CAP_VARIABLE_FRAME_SIZE)
audio_input_frame_size = 10000;
else
audio_input_frame_size = c->frame_size;
int tempSize = audio_input_frame_size *
av_get_bytes_per_sample(c->sample_fmt) *
c->channels;
return ret;
}
void close_audio(AVFormatContext *oc, AVStream *st)
{
avcodec_close(st->codec);
}
void write_audio_frame(uint8_t ** audio_src_data, int audio_src_bufsize)
{
AVFormatContext *oc = output_fmt_ctx;
AVStream *st = audio_st;
if ( oc == NULL || st == NULL ) return;
AVCodecContext *c;
AVPacket pkt = { 0 }; // data and size must be 0;
int got_packet;
av_init_packet(&pkt);
c = st->codec;
out_frame->nb_samples = audio_input_frame_size;
int buf_size = audio_src_bufsize *
av_get_bytes_per_sample(c->sample_fmt) *
c->channels;
avcodec_fill_audio_frame(out_frame, c->channels, c->sample_fmt,
(uint8_t *) *audio_src_data,
buf_size, 1);
avcodec_encode_audio2(c, &pkt, out_frame, &got_packet);
if (!got_packet)
{
}
else
{
if (pkt.pts != AV_NOPTS_VALUE)
pkt.pts = av_rescale_q(pkt.pts, st->codec->time_base, st->time_base);
if (pkt.dts != AV_NOPTS_VALUE)
pkt.dts = av_rescale_q(pkt.dts, st->codec->time_base, st->time_base);
if ( c && c->coded_frame && c->coded_frame->key_frame)
pkt.flags |= AV_PKT_FLAG_KEY;
pkt.stream_index = st->index;
pkt.flags |= AV_PKT_FLAG_KEY;
/* Write the compressed frame to the media file. */
if (av_interleaved_write_frame(oc, &pkt) != 0)
{
fprintf(stderr, "Error while writing audio frame\n");
exit(1);
}
}
av_free_packet(&pkt);
}
void write_delayed_frames(AVFormatContext *oc, AVStream *st)
{
AVCodecContext *c = st->codec;
int got_output = 0;
int ret = 0;
AVPacket pkt;
pkt.data = NULL;
pkt.size = 0;
av_init_packet(&pkt);
int i = 0;
for (got_output = 1; got_output; i++)
{
ret = avcodec_encode_audio2(c, &pkt, NULL, &got_output);
if (ret < 0)
{
fprintf(stderr, "error encoding frame\n");
exit(1);
}
static int64_t tempPts = 0;
static int64_t tempDts = 0;
/* If size is zero, it means the image was buffered. */
if (got_output)
{
if (pkt.pts != AV_NOPTS_VALUE)
pkt.pts = av_rescale_q(pkt.pts, st->codec->time_base, st->time_base);
if (pkt.dts != AV_NOPTS_VALUE)
pkt.dts = av_rescale_q(pkt.dts, st->codec->time_base, st->time_base);
if ( c && c->coded_frame && c->coded_frame->key_frame)
pkt.flags |= AV_PKT_FLAG_KEY;
pkt.stream_index = st->index;
/* Write the compressed frame to the media file. */
ret = av_interleaved_write_frame(oc, &pkt);
}
else
{
ret = 0;
}
av_free_packet(&pkt);
}
}
int main(int argc, char **argv)
{
/* register all formats and codecs */
av_register_all();
avcodec_register_all();
avformat_network_init();
avdevice_register_all();
int i =0;
int ret=0;
char src_filename[90] = "test_a.webm";
char dst_filename[90] = "output.aac";
open_audio_input(src_filename);
if ( codec_ctx_audio->bit_rate == 0 ) codec_ctx_audio->bit_rate = 112000;
audio_bit_rate = codec_ctx_audio->bit_rate;
audio_sample_rate = codec_ctx_audio->sample_rate;
audio_channels = codec_ctx_audio->channels;
open_encoder( dst_filename );
while(1)
{
int rv = decode_frame();
if ( rv < 0 )
{
break;
}
if (audio_st)
{
audio_pts = (double)audio_st->pts.val * audio_st->time_base.num /
audio_st->time_base.den;
}
else
{
audio_pts = 0.0;
}
if ( codec_ctx_audio )
{
if ( got_frame)
{
write_audio_frame( audio_dst_data, audio_dst_bufsize );
}
}
if ( audio_dst_data[0] )
{
av_freep(&audio_dst_data[0]);
audio_dst_data[0] = NULL;
}
printf("\naudio_pts: %.3f", audio_pts);
}
while(1)
{
if ( audio_dst_data && audio_dst_data[0] )
{
av_freep(&audio_dst_data[0]);
audio_dst_data[0] = NULL;
}
ret = av_samples_alloc(audio_dst_data, NULL, codec_ctx_audio->channels,
decoded_frame->nb_samples, AV_SAMPLE_FMT_S16, 0);
ret = swr_convert(swr, audio_dst_data, out_frame->nb_samples,NULL, 0);
if ( ret <= 0 ) break;
write_audio_frame( audio_dst_data, audio_dst_bufsize );
}
write_delayed_frames( output_fmt_ctx, audio_st );
av_write_trailer(output_fmt_ctx);
close_audio( output_fmt_ctx, audio_st);
swr_free(&swr);
avcodec_free_frame(&out_frame);
getch();
return 0;
}
</queue></deque></map></vector></string></fstream></iostream>"test_a.webm" input file results in longer duration (40 second output), and if I change it to "jet.webm", it is converted fine.
Both input files are approximately 18 second duration.
For reference, these files can be downloaded from links below :
http://www.filedropper.com/testa ,
http://www.filedropper.com/jetAlternatively, they are zipped and uploaded elsewhere as well :
http://www.files.com/shared/52c3eefe990ea/test_audio_files.zip
Could someone kindly guide on what I am doing wrong here ?
Thanks in advance...
p.s. These files are taken/extracted from different online sources/demos.
Edit 2-1-14 : After debugging, I can see audio_pts variable is being populated incorrectly. It relies on audio_st->pts.val, which is automatically calculated upon calling av_interleaved_write_frame() function. I cannot step inside av_interleaved_write_frame() function since I am on Windows, using libav dlls/libs.
So,
For jet.webm file (whose conversion is fine), audio_st->pts.val goes till maximum : 1665567, and audio_pts becomes :
1665567*1/90000 = 18.5063
For test_a.webm file (whose conversion is bad), audio_st->pts.val goes till maximum : 3606988, and audio_pts becomes :
3606988*1/90000 = 40.0776
- reference line : audio_pts = (double)audio_st->pts.val * audio_st->time_base.num /
audio_st->time_base.den ;
Since PTS is very off, it shouldn't be playing fine logically as well. But I cannot say av_interleaved_write_frame() function is doing it wrong ; surely something cleaner can be managed on my end.
Edit 3-1-14 : Discovered one more thing : while reading jet.webm file, decoded frame's nb_sample are always 1024 (except for 1st frame : 576), but in case of test_a.webm file, nb_samples are either 1024, or 128, with exceptions of 576 (less frequent). If I ignore writing of frame when nb_sample is 128, I get approximately same file length in the end, but you can hear bits and pieces are missing here and there.
How can I deal with this ?
- reference line : audio_pts = (double)audio_st->pts.val * audio_st->time_base.num /
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WebVTT as a W3C Recommendation
1er janvier 2014, par silviaThree weeks ago I attended TPAC, the annual meeting of W3C Working Groups. One of the meetings was of the Timed Text Working Group (TT-WG), that has been specifying TTML, the Timed Text Markup Language. It is now proposed that WebVTT be also standardised through the same Working Group.
How did that happen, you may ask, in particular since WebVTT and TTML have in the past been portrayed as rival caption formats ? How will the WebVTT spec that is currently under development in the Text Track Community Group (TT-CG) move through a Working Group process ?
I’ll explain first why there is a need for WebVTT to become a W3C Recommendation, and then how this is proposed to be part of the Timed Text Working Group deliverables, and finally how I can see this working between the TT-CG and the TT-WG.
Advantages of a W3C Recommendation
TTML is a XML-based markup format for captions developed during the time that XML was all the hotness. It has become a W3C standard (a so-called “Recommendation”) despite not having been implemented in any browsers (if you ask me : that’s actually a flaw of the W3C standardisation process : it requires only two interoperable implementations of any kind – and that could be anyone’s JavaScript library or Flash demonstrator – it doesn’t actually require browser implementations. But I digress…). To be fair, a subpart of TTML is by now implemented in Internet Explorer, but all the other major browsers have thus far rejected proposals of implementation.
Because of its Recommendation status, TTML has become the basis for several other caption standards that other SDOs have picked : the SMPTE’s SMPTE-TT format, the EBU’s EBU-TT format, and the DASH Industry Forum’s use of SMPTE-TT. SMPTE-TT has also become the “safe harbour” format for the US legislation on captioning as decided by the FCC. (Note that the FCC requirements for captions on the Web are actually based on a list of features rather than requiring a specific format. But that will be the topic of a different blog post…)
WebVTT is much younger than TTML. TTML was developed as an interchange format among caption authoring systems. WebVTT was built for rendering in Web browsers and with HTML5 in mind. It meets the requirements of the <track> element and supports more than just captions/subtitles. WebVTT is popular with browser developers and has already been implemented in all major browsers (Firefox Nightly is the last to implement it – all others have support already released).
As we can see and as has been proven by the HTML spec and multiple other specs : browsers don’t wait for specifications to have W3C Recommendation status before they implement them. Nor do they really care about the status of a spec – what they care about is whether a spec makes sense for the Web developer and user communities and whether it fits in the Web platform. WebVTT has obviously achieved this status, even with an evolving spec. (Note that the spec tries very hard not to break backwards compatibility, thus all past implementations will at least be compatible with the more basic features of the spec.)
Given that Web browsers don’t need WebVTT to become a W3C standard, why then should we spend effort in moving the spec through the W3C process to become a W3C Recommendation ?
The modern Web is now much bigger than just Web browsers. Web specifications are being used in all kinds of devices including TV set-top boxes, phone and tablet apps, and even unexpected devices such as white goods. Videos are increasingly omnipresent thus exposing deaf and hard-of-hearing users to ever-growing challenges in interacting with content on diverse devices. Some of these devices will not use auto-updating software but fixed versions so can’t easily adapt to new features. Thus, caption producers (both commercial and community) need to be able to author captions (and other video accessibility content as defined by the HTML5 element) towards a feature set that is clearly defined to be supported by such non-updating devices.
Understandably, device vendors in this space have a need to build their technology on standardised specifications. SDOs for such device technologies like to reference fixed specifications so the feature set is not continually updating. To reference WebVTT, they could use a snapshot of the specification at any time and reference that, but that’s not how SDOs work. They prefer referencing an officially sanctioned and tested version of a specification – for a W3C specification that means creating a W3C Recommendation of the WebVTT spec.
Taking WebVTT on a W3C recommendation track is actually advantageous for browsers, too, because a test suite will have to be developed that proves that features are implemented in an interoperable manner. In summary, I can see the advantages and personally support the effort to take WebVTT through to a W3C Recommendation.
Choice of Working Group
FAIK this is the first time that a specification developed in a Community Group is being moved into the recommendation track. This is something that has been expected when the W3C created CGs, but not something that has an established process yet.
The first question of course is which WG would take it through to Recommendation ? Would we create a new Working Group or find an existing one to move the specification through ? Since WGs involve a lot of overhead, the preference was to add WebVTT to the charter of an existing WG. The two obvious candidates were the HTML WG and the TT-WG – the first because it’s where WebVTT originated and the latter because it’s the closest thematically.
Adding a deliverable to a WG is a major undertaking. The TT-WG is currently in the process of re-chartering and thus a suggestion was made to add WebVTT to the milestones of this WG. TBH that was not my first choice. Since I’m already an editor in the HTML WG and WebVTT is very closely related to HTML and can be tested extensively as part of HTML, I preferred the HTML WG. However, adding WebVTT to the TT-WG has some advantages, too.
Since TTML is an exchange format, lots of captions that will be created (at least professionally) will be in TTML and TTML-related formats. It makes sense to create a mapping from TTML to WebVTT for rendering in browsers. The expertise of both, TTML and WebVTT experts is required to develop a good mapping – as has been shown when we developed the mapping from CEA608/708 to WebVTT. Also, captioning experts are already in the TT-WG, so it helps to get a second set of eyes onto WebVTT.
A disadvantage of moving a specification out of a CG into a WG is, however, that you potentially lose a lot of the expertise that is already involved in the development of the spec. People don’t easily re-subscribe to additional mailing lists or want the additional complexity of involving another community (see e.g. this email).
So, a good process needs to be developed to allow everyone to contribute to the spec in the best way possible without requiring duplicate work. How can we do that ?
The forthcoming process
At TPAC the TT-WG discussed for several hours what the next steps are in taking WebVTT through the TT-WG to recommendation status (agenda with slides). I won’t bore you with the different views – if you are keen, you can read the minutes.
What I came away with is the following process :
- Fix a few more bugs in the CG until we’re happy with the feature set in the CG. This should match the feature set that we realistically expect devices to implement for a first version of the WebVTT spec.
- Make a FSA (Final Specification Agreement) in the CG to create a stable reference and a clean IPR position.
- Assuming that the TT-WG’s charter has been approved with WebVTT as a milestone, we would next bring the FSA specification into the TT-WG as FPWD (First Public Working Draft) and immediately do a Last Call which effectively freezes the feature set (this is possible because there has already been wide community review of the WebVTT spec) ; in parallel, the CG can continue to develop the next version of the WebVTT spec with new features (just like it is happening with the HTML5 and HTML5.1 specifications).
- Develop a test suite and address any issues in the Last Call document (of course, also fix these issues in the CG version of the spec).
- As per W3C process, substantive and minor changes to Last Call documents have to be reported and raised issues addressed before the spec can progress to the next level : Candidate Recommendation status.
- For the next step – Proposed Recommendation status – an implementation report is necessary, and thus the test suite needs to be finalized for the given feature set. The feature set may also be reduced at this stage to just the ones implemented interoperably, leaving any other features for the next version of the spec.
- The final step is Recommendation status, which simply requires sufficient support and endorsement by W3C members.
The first version of the WebVTT spec naturally has a focus on captioning (and subtitling), since this has been the dominant use case that we have focused on this far and it’s the part that is the most compatibly implemented feature set of WebVTT in browsers. It’s my expectation that the next version of WebVTT will have a lot more features related to audio descriptions, chapters and metadata. Thus, this seems a good time for a first version feature freeze.
There are still several obstacles towards progressing WebVTT as a milestone of the TT-WG. Apart from the need to get buy-in from the TT-WG, the TT-CG, and the AC (Adivisory Committee who have to approve the new charter), we’re also looking at the license of the specification document.
The CG specification has an open license that allows creating derivative work as long as there is attribution, while the W3C document license for documents on the recommendation track does not allow the creation of derivative work unless given explicit exceptions. This is an issue that is currently being discussed in the W3C with a proposal for a CC-BY license on the Recommendation track. However, my view is that it’s probably ok to use the different document licenses : the TT-WG will work on WebVTT 1.0 and give it a W3C document license, while the CG starts working on the next WebVTT version under the open CG license. It probably actually makes sense to have a less open license on a frozen spec.
Making the best of a complicated world
WebVTT is now proposed as part of the recharter of the TT-WG. I have no idea how complicated the process will become to achieve a W3C WebVTT 1.0 Recommendation, but I am hoping that what is outlined above will be workable in such a way that all of us get to focus on progressing the technology.
At TPAC I got the impression that the TT-WG is committed to progressing WebVTT to Recommendation status. I know that the TT-CG is committed to continue developing WebVTT to its full potential for all kinds of media-time aligned content with new kinds already discussed at FOMS. Let’s enable both groups to achieve their goals. As a consequence, we will allow the two formats to excel where they do : TTML as an interchange format and WebVTT as a browser rendering format.
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WebVTT as a W3C Recommendation
2 décembre 2013, par silviaThree weeks ago I attended TPAC, the annual meeting of W3C Working Groups. One of the meetings was of the Timed Text Working Group (TT-WG), that has been specifying TTML, the Timed Text Markup Language. It is now proposed that WebVTT be also standardised through the same Working Group.
How did that happen, you may ask, in particular since WebVTT and TTML have in the past been portrayed as rival caption formats ? How will the WebVTT spec that is currently under development in the Text Track Community Group (TT-CG) move through a Working Group process ?
I’ll explain first why there is a need for WebVTT to become a W3C Recommendation, and then how this is proposed to be part of the Timed Text Working Group deliverables, and finally how I can see this working between the TT-CG and the TT-WG.
Advantages of a W3C Recommendation
TTML is a XML-based markup format for captions developed during the time that XML was all the hotness. It has become a W3C standard (a so-called “Recommendation”) despite not having been implemented in any browsers (if you ask me : that’s actually a flaw of the W3C standardisation process : it requires only two interoperable implementations of any kind – and that could be anyone’s JavaScript library or Flash demonstrator – it doesn’t actually require browser implementations. But I digress…). To be fair, a subpart of TTML is by now implemented in Internet Explorer, but all the other major browsers have thus far rejected proposals of implementation.
Because of its Recommendation status, TTML has become the basis for several other caption standards that other SDOs have picked : the SMPTE’s SMPTE-TT format, the EBU’s EBU-TT format, and the DASH Industry Forum’s use of SMPTE-TT. SMPTE-TT has also become the “safe harbour” format for the US legislation on captioning as decided by the FCC. (Note that the FCC requirements for captions on the Web are actually based on a list of features rather than requiring a specific format. But that will be the topic of a different blog post…)
WebVTT is much younger than TTML. TTML was developed as an interchange format among caption authoring systems. WebVTT was built for rendering in Web browsers and with HTML5 in mind. It meets the requirements of the <track> element and supports more than just captions/subtitles. WebVTT is popular with browser developers and has already been implemented in all major browsers (Firefox Nightly is the last to implement it – all others have support already released).
As we can see and as has been proven by the HTML spec and multiple other specs : browsers don’t wait for specifications to have W3C Recommendation status before they implement them. Nor do they really care about the status of a spec – what they care about is whether a spec makes sense for the Web developer and user communities and whether it fits in the Web platform. WebVTT has obviously achieved this status, even with an evolving spec. (Note that the spec tries very hard not to break backwards compatibility, thus all past implementations will at least be compatible with the more basic features of the spec.)
Given that Web browsers don’t need WebVTT to become a W3C standard, why then should we spend effort in moving the spec through the W3C process to become a W3C Recommendation ?
The modern Web is now much bigger than just Web browsers. Web specifications are being used in all kinds of devices including TV set-top boxes, phone and tablet apps, and even unexpected devices such as white goods. Videos are increasingly omnipresent thus exposing deaf and hard-of-hearing users to ever-growing challenges in interacting with content on diverse devices. Some of these devices will not use auto-updating software but fixed versions so can’t easily adapt to new features. Thus, caption producers (both commercial and community) need to be able to author captions (and other video accessibility content as defined by the HTML5
Understandably, device vendors in this space have a need to build their technology on standardised specifications. SDOs for such device technologies like to reference fixed specifications so the feature set is not continually updating. To reference WebVTT, they could use a snapshot of the specification at any time and reference that, but that’s not how SDOs work. They prefer referencing an officially sanctioned and tested version of a specification – for a W3C specification that means creating a W3C Recommendation of the WebVTT spec.
Taking WebVTT on a W3C recommendation track is actually advantageous for browsers, too, because a test suite will have to be developed that proves that features are implemented in an interoperable manner. In summary, I can see the advantages and personally support the effort to take WebVTT through to a W3C Recommendation.
Choice of Working Group
FAIK this is the first time that a specification developed in a Community Group is being moved into the recommendation track. This is something that has been expected when the W3C created CGs, but not something that has an established process yet.
The first question of course is which WG would take it through to Recommendation ? Would we create a new Working Group or find an existing one to move the specification through ? Since WGs involve a lot of overhead, the preference was to add WebVTT to the charter of an existing WG. The two obvious candidates were the HTML WG and the TT-WG – the first because it’s where WebVTT originated and the latter because it’s the closest thematically.
Adding a deliverable to a WG is a major undertaking. The TT-WG is currently in the process of re-chartering and thus a suggestion was made to add WebVTT to the milestones of this WG. TBH that was not my first choice. Since I’m already an editor in the HTML WG and WebVTT is very closely related to HTML and can be tested extensively as part of HTML, I preferred the HTML WG. However, adding WebVTT to the TT-WG has some advantages, too.
Since TTML is an exchange format, lots of captions that will be created (at least professionally) will be in TTML and TTML-related formats. It makes sense to create a mapping from TTML to WebVTT for rendering in browsers. The expertise of both, TTML and WebVTT experts is required to develop a good mapping – as has been shown when we developed the mapping from CEA608/708 to WebVTT. Also, captioning experts are already in the TT-WG, so it helps to get a second set of eyes onto WebVTT.
A disadvantage of moving a specification out of a CG into a WG is, however, that you potentially lose a lot of the expertise that is already involved in the development of the spec. People don’t easily re-subscribe to additional mailing lists or want the additional complexity of involving another community (see e.g. this email).
So, a good process needs to be developed to allow everyone to contribute to the spec in the best way possible without requiring duplicate work. How can we do that ?
The forthcoming process
At TPAC the TT-WG discussed for several hours what the next steps are in taking WebVTT through the TT-WG to recommendation status (agenda with slides). I won’t bore you with the different views – if you are keen, you can read the minutes.
What I came away with is the following process :
- Fix a few more bugs in the CG until we’re happy with the feature set in the CG. This should match the feature set that we realistically expect devices to implement for a first version of the WebVTT spec.
- Make a FSA (Final Specification Agreement) in the CG to create a stable reference and a clean IPR position.
- Assuming that the TT-WG’s charter has been approved with WebVTT as a milestone, we would next bring the FSA specification into the TT-WG as FPWD (First Public Working Draft) and immediately do a Last Call which effectively freezes the feature set (this is possible because there has already been wide community review of the WebVTT spec) ; in parallel, the CG can continue to develop the next version of the WebVTT spec with new features (just like it is happening with the HTML5 and HTML5.1 specifications).
- Develop a test suite and address any issues in the Last Call document (of course, also fix these issues in the CG version of the spec).
- As per W3C process, substantive and minor changes to Last Call documents have to be reported and raised issues addressed before the spec can progress to the next level : Candidate Recommendation status.
- For the next step – Proposed Recommendation status – an implementation report is necessary, and thus the test suite needs to be finalized for the given feature set. The feature set may also be reduced at this stage to just the ones implemented interoperably, leaving any other features for the next version of the spec.
- The final step is Recommendation status, which simply requires sufficient support and endorsement by W3C members.
The first version of the WebVTT spec naturally has a focus on captioning (and subtitling), since this has been the dominant use case that we have focused on this far and it’s the part that is the most compatibly implemented feature set of WebVTT in browsers. It’s my expectation that the next version of WebVTT will have a lot more features related to audio descriptions, chapters and metadata. Thus, this seems a good time for a first version feature freeze.
There are still several obstacles towards progressing WebVTT as a milestone of the TT-WG. Apart from the need to get buy-in from the TT-WG, the TT-CG, and the AC (Adivisory Committee who have to approve the new charter), we’re also looking at the license of the specification document.
The CG specification has an open license that allows creating derivative work as long as there is attribution, while the W3C document license for documents on the recommendation track does not allow the creation of derivative work unless given explicit exceptions. This is an issue that is currently being discussed in the W3C with a proposal for a CC-BY license on the Recommendation track. However, my view is that it’s probably ok to use the different document licenses : the TT-WG will work on WebVTT 1.0 and give it a W3C document license, while the CG starts working on the next WebVTT version under the open CG license. It probably actually makes sense to have a less open license on a frozen spec.
Making the best of a complicated world
WebVTT is now proposed as part of the recharter of the TT-WG. I have no idea how complicated the process will become to achieve a W3C WebVTT 1.0 Recommendation, but I am hoping that what is outlined above will be workable in such a way that all of us get to focus on progressing the technology.
At TPAC I got the impression that the TT-WG is committed to progressing WebVTT to Recommendation status. I know that the TT-CG is committed to continue developing WebVTT to its full potential for all kinds of media-time aligned content with new kinds already discussed at FOMS. Let’s enable both groups to achieve their goals. As a consequence, we will allow the two formats to excel where they do : TTML as an interchange format and WebVTT as a browser rendering format.